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Tonto National Forest (mostly) reopened Monday, 8/1: The areas burned by the Cave Creek Complex and Edge fires remain closed.
The Public Lands Information Center (PLIC), run by the Bureau of Land Management, has invited us to participate in this year�s National Public Lands Day, Saturday September 24. The event will be held at the Phoenix North Mountain Visitor Center, North 7th Street, south of Thunderbird Road at approximately N 33� 36.034� W 112� 03.938� (though there are events all over the state � see: ) .

The day will consist of two parts: A �Trail Beautification Project� from 7 to 9 AM and a Recreation Fair from 9 AM to 2 PM. Volunteers for the Trail Project will receive breakfast, souvenir T-shirt, water, snacks, and lunch. During the Recreation Fair, we will be manning one of about 50 tables open to the public to talk about Geocaching. We�ve been asked to ��introduce folks to your hobby and educate them on the proper etiquette as far as minimum impact and �Leave no trace� �. Last year they had an estimated 5,000 attendees during the Recreation Fair and anticipate a similar number this year.

What we�ll need will be volunteers for the Trail Project, and volunteers to staff the table. My thought is two or more people at the table for two-hour shifts, depending on how many volunteers we have. You�ll be able to do both the Trail Project and the table if you�d like. I�m hoping we�ll have enough participation that no one will have to do more than two hours at the table unless they really want to.

The text of the email I received, a Microsoft Word file about the event from Phoenix Parks and Recreation (who are co-sponsors locally), and two one-page PDF documents about the day may be found at

I think it is important that we do this as a community. If you want to participate, let me know either by contacting me on the azgeocaching listserver or emailing me through my profile. Thank you.

Team Tierra Buena

Well, time has gone by way too fast, and it wasn't until a few days ago that I realized the Adopt-A-Highway Program was never officially adopted, and along with it CITO Always. I don't remember who had expressed interest in adopting it, so I'd like to toss the question back out to the masses. It's coming up on 3 months since my final AZ cleanup, and should be adopted soon so that a cleanup can be scheduled in order to maintain a clean highway.

Remember, we have two signs up, so if the cleaning is done regularly enough, it should look great and be a shining example of what Geocachers are about. Please let me know as soon as possible (on or off listserv) so that I can get the permit transferred and you can schedule another CITO event.

Thank you in advance to whoever takes this on! It may sound like a lot of work, but it's really no more complicated than making a pb&j sandwich and then explaining how you made it. :)

Team A.I.

Brian of Team A.I. will be leaving us soon, and has decided to throw an impromptu event cache. It will be held on June 22 from 7pm to 9pm. This could be the last time to say goodbye in person to one of our more active cachers before he heads north to the land where the white stuff attacks every year. Plus I hear it will really be worth your time...


Closures are going into effect today (05/20/2004) in the Tonto National Forest, due to the extreme fire danger. They will take place around the communities of Pine and Strawberry, north of the Tonto Natural Bridge State Park to the Mogollon Rim. The Pinal Mountains south of Globe are also closed. Visitors are urged to follow fire safety standards, to prevent human-caused wildfires.
This was origionally posted to the mailing list, but everyone isn't on the mailing list....

The Geocaching community was represented by Marc and Julie (Tamo's Clan'Destiny), Brian (Team Snaptek and, Christy and Joe (Pet Posse), Mark (Highway Havoc), Bob Renner ( Bob Renner ), and me. (Did I forget anyone? My apologies if I did. Lately my memory cells seem to be flaking off faster than my dandruff.) The land management agencies represented included the State Historic Preservation Office (which sponsors the Site Steward program), City of Phoenix , City of Scottsdale , Maricopa County , Bureau of Land Management, Tonto National Forest , and the Kofa National Wildlife Refuge outside of Yuma .

Public Agencies/Land Preserves/Geocachers Roundtable
On Tuesday, September 30,2003
7:00p.m. - 8:30p.m.

Last year Arizona Site Stewards began finding Geocaches located at a few of the archaeological sites they monitor. They alerted the land managers to the potential impacts of the game being played at or near archaeological sites (or in conservation areas). In September 2002, the State Historic Preservation Office, the BLM, and Steve Gross (unofficially representing the Geocachers) co-sponsored a meeting between the Geocaching community and the land managers to discuss ways of Geocaching could be played in an appropriate manner on public lands. |We invited each of the public land managers, as well as representatives of tribes and several of the preserves in the Phoenix/Scottsdale metro area, to discuss their policies to the Geocachers. The Geocachers were given equal time to voice concerns and time to network with the land managers. Many of the land managing agencies had never heard of the game of Geocaching and were unaware that the game was being playing on lands under their jurisdiction. Except for the National Park Service, many had no formal or even an informal policy regarding this type of activity. Some felt it is an appropriate use of public lands, others felt there should be some limitations. We felt the meeting was beneficial in bringing the issue to the front and in opening dialogue between the Geocachers, the various land managers, and the Arizona Site Stewards who volunteer for the various land mangers in cultural resource protection. By this time, most of the land managers have formalized a policy for this type of game. We would like to engage a new generation of Geocachers to the rules for playing the game on public lands. To this end, we are sponsoring a roundtable discussion for land managers and Geocachers. If you feel Geocaching may be an issue for cultural resource management in the future or if you are a Geocacher and want to have your voice heard, we invite you to attend this informal discussion group at the
Pueblo Grande Museum
4619 E. Washington
Phoenix, Arizona

Refreshments will be served, courtesy of the Arizona Site Steward Program.
Please RSVP to Mary Estes at 602.542.7143; e-mail: Mestes �at� pr �dot� state �dot� az �dot� US.
Geocachers: please RSVP to Steve Gross at teamtierrabuena �at� earthlink �dot� net.

An article just poped up on slashdot talking about the various land agencies banning geocaching on their (our) land. The article itself is nothing new, but I thought the comments might be interesting since they are plentiful and they aren't feeding off the geocaching community.
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At a regularly scheduled meeting of the McDowell Sonoran Preserve Commission held earlier this evening, the Commissioners, by a voice vote, denied a request to reconsider their policy prohibiting the placement of Geocaches within the McDowell Sonoran Preserve. They agreed to post a statement of their policy on the Preserve Commission web page.

The Commissioners made it very clear that the first mandate of the Preserve is preservation. The Commission is not going to allow any activity which involves going off-trail. They are also quite open about the fact that they are going to avoid setting any precedent that risks opening a wider door in the future. By that reasoning, they hold that even a cache that is right next to the trail is still off-trail. They are also opposed to having any contemporary non-natural objects within the preserve, except for those placed for such reasons as safety, directions, etc. Those are their major reasons behind their denial of reconsideration, as best as I am able to summarize them.

I would urge any of you who have placed caches within the Preserve to remove them soon. My best guess is that there will be a not very long grace period before confiscation efforts begin.

Team Tierra Buena